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This podcast episode includes discussions of violence, and mentions of sexual violence and rape.
Welcome To Eurovision Wars
Eurovision Wars is a series of podcasts exploring geopolitical themes as they emerged on the Eurovision Song Contest stage. You can listen to Seasons 1 and 2 in full on Spotify, covering such topics as the Russia-Ukraine War, and the long-running dispute between Azerbaijan and Armenia. For Season 3, the podcast moves to its new home at ESC Insight, and will focus on the many controversies of Eurovision 2024. In particular, hosts Phil Doré and Ana Oppenheim will attempt to contextualise the fierce rows over the Israeli entry for Malmö 2024.
In episode three, we look at Ireland’s entry to the Contest and the intensely outspoken Bambi Thug. From their formative years discovering themselves and their artistry, through RTE’s Eurosong selection, and to the pressures of Malmö, how did Bambi Thug use the stage of the Song Contest to amplify their message, and how did others want that stage to be used?
Our Principles Of Discussion
Before we go on, a quick reminder of the principles we are holding to in this series. Discussing Israel and Palestine is inevitably difficult and polarising, so in episode one, we introduced three ground rules to frame our podcasts.
Be willing to keep more than one thought in your head.
It can be true that the founding of the state of Israel was in response to centuries of antisemitism and the horrors of the Holocaust, and also that its founding was marked by massacres and forced displacement of the local Arab population. Likewise, it can be true that Israelis have a right not to be victims of Hamas terrorism, and Palestinians have a right not to be bombed by Israeli warplanes. These are not contradictory.
Explanation is not justification.
When we say that decades of oppression against the Palestinians contributed to October 7th, that is not to justify the atrocities of that day. Likewise, in describing those atrocities, this does not render the mass destruction inflicted by Israel on Gaza acceptable.
If one side in a conflict commits a war crime, that doesn’t mean the other side gets a free war crime.
Because, unbelievably, that point still has to be made.
Eurovision stage concept for Malmo 2024 (EBU / SVT)
If we are to fully understand how the Eurovision Song Contest became so controversial in 2024, then this inevitably leads to difficult conversations. But these are conversations we absolutely need to have as a community.
You can find previous Eurovision Wars episodes on ESC Insight here.